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srt 10-08-2019 06:54 AM

Justice
 
Thanks Dealer Ex, I was being very sarcastic. It will take some time to digest the result.

57years 10-09-2019 06:15 AM

Appalling, just appalling! This has been a smelly, dirty, steamy, matter from the day the politicians got there chance to take possession of a manufactured crisis. The same gang now saving us from the current manufactured crisis. Just appalling.... Just another footnote in the sad destruction of the greatest county (political system), economic system, and land of opportunity to ever exist in the history of humans.

It takes self delusion to remain an optimist!

possum 10-17-2019 04:33 PM

I'm still trying to gather my feelings, but I can say, the country has changed and moved so far from truth, values, and even common sense, that this verdict doesn't even surprise me. This is not the USA of our grand parents, or parents, and is rapidly moving to socialism, and the sad thing is that nobody even cares.
Our main concern is now, who won "Dancing with the Stars", and not what is happening to our country.
Dumbing down the population.

steve_biegler 10-29-2019 10:40 AM

Well we received our letter about an appeal. I have such mixed feelings on if it is just another waste of time or if justice will be served. The amount being asked for is not excessive. Need to decide in the next few days. Wish I could just let go.

steve_biegler 10-29-2019 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srt (Post 39066)
Thanks Dealer Ex, I was being very sarcastic. It will take some time to digest the result.


Sorry about my reply. That was a really bad day. I just didn't think.

flstsphil 10-31-2019 07:07 AM

I'm in. I figure it is better odds than buying a lottery ticket.

steve_biegler 11-01-2019 11:21 AM

I'm in too. I hope it's better odds than a lottery ticket but with the government involved I'm not sure.

The StraightShooter 11-07-2019 03:34 PM

FWIW, here is a little karma that might make you smile. Recently, the former MABC Director, you know the one that got promoted after killing people's business but who was then fired by the recently deceased chain smoker from Italy.. Well it would appear he has had a rough go of it since his own termination. If you look at his LinkedIn profile my man has not been able to hold a job down. I was in an FCA showroom in the northeast recently and they were talking about a former high flier who they were having a hard time getting bought. When I saw who it was I smiled.

steve_biegler 11-11-2019 02:44 PM

Well it finally made the Snooze.
https://www.autonews.com/dealers/ter...nt-plan-appeal

steve_biegler 11-11-2019 02:45 PM

They even have video!

https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/m...Hkv3pg?.src=fp

steve_biegler 11-25-2019 04:40 AM

Haven't heard if the attorneys got enough takers to try to appeal. I'll try to find out and let everybody know.

tnpartsguy 11-26-2019 09:26 AM

I'm sorry guys. I was hoping for a good verdict for you guys. You deserve better, but I'm afraid Possom is right about this not being the country of of our grandparents/parents/or even our younger selves. This country cares more about the life of a 'professional' athelete then it does our military, police, and 1st responders. I'm 56 years old, and I've been in this business for 32 years now, and the things I've seen in the last few years are mind-blowing. Again, to everyone who was involved, I'm sure sorry to hear this rotten news.

flstsphil 11-27-2019 07:28 AM

The Bellavia group has enough takers to appeal. Not sure about the other groups.

steve_biegler 12-31-2019 06:29 AM

Happy New Year to all of us trying to get some satisfaction after a decade of trying. Maybe this will be our decade?

JUNIOR 01-06-2020 12:26 PM

Sorry the outcome wasn't the one everybody hoped for. As a salesperson at a dealer Chrysler closed, I lost my job, most of my client base, and a steady income. I hoped that a small victory here would help heal those wounds. Maybe on appeal, some justice will prevail. Happy new year to everyone here.

steve_biegler 01-09-2020 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JUNIOR (Post 39086)
Sorry the outcome wasn't the one everybody hoped for. As a salesperson at a dealer Chrysler closed, I lost my job, most of my client base, and a steady income. I hoped that a small victory here would help heal those wounds. Maybe on appeal, some justice will prevail. Happy new year to everyone here.

I believe Junior is in the last shot of this clip, the one with the Silver Liberty, correct me if I'm wrong.

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/7gr2pw...r-or-no-dealer

JUNIOR 01-16-2020 01:33 PM

You are correct. That was just as the wheels were coming off the bus. I had my brief moment of fame, then, lost my job.

JUNIOR 01-16-2020 01:35 PM

Now, I am back with Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram working in Finance. I started back in September. I hope the second go round with Chrysler goes better.

57years 01-23-2020 03:36 AM

Junior, I wish you the best of luck!

steve_biegler 02-21-2020 05:47 AM

Just a bump to keep this thread on the main page. Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend!

X-BPG 02-27-2020 03:54 PM

I hadn't seen the Jon Stewart clip in post #56 until now. That made me tear up, then rage crept in. Gutless #$%@# couldn't tell me in person that they decided to flush my business down the drain for me.

That day, without a doubt, the toughest job I ever had- telling my excellent dealership crew that due to no fault of their own, they were going to be unemployed. Thankfully, they all were only temporarily out of work, and have successfully forged ahead.

steve_biegler 02-28-2020 11:16 AM

Welcome back to The Forum! 3 posts in 8 years sure makes me look like a blabbermouth.

Don't feel bad I have known about that clip since it came out and I get the same emotions to this day. Unless you've lived through it you won't understand. All I can say is, even though it had been over a decade, stay strong.

Yamaholic 01-14-2021 10:55 AM

Tesla...
 
Im probably going stir up the hornets nest here...but here goes.
I searched the fourm for Tesla info and see very little on this company the last few years here.
Whats everyones take on the company now since they have survived/disrupted and grown.
Looks like they are going to be around for the foreseable future.

steve_biegler 01-15-2021 07:26 AM

Welcome back!

The Forum was very active a decade ago when the Chrysler and GM bankruptcy was going on. Many of the members were effected by the BK, me included.

I personally have no problem with Tesla or their way of selling cars. I'm not convinced electric is the way of the future with all the hurdles in front of them....Range....Charge time.....charging station availability, to name a few.

Now stock price I wonder about. If any of the dealers on the forum would walk into a bank and tell them that we wanted to start a dealership that wouldn't turn a profit for................A DECADE +........I doubt we'd have much luck. Mr. Musk is lucky he made his billions before he got into the car business.

Now on his sales philosophy. He is putting his, or should I say, his stockholders, money up to create a sales location. This is NOT a franchise like GM, Ford, Chrysler and everybody else. Franchise owners put up brick and mortar, hired employees, bought inventory and put up with many ridiculous requirements from the factories for years sometime decades, 8 decades for my families dealership. So franchise laws were enacted to protect that investment, nothing more! If the manufacturer could come in and sell product it would put the dealers at a huge disadvantage.

To get a feel for this group I suggest you go back and read some prior threads. Lots of really smart guys here. I hope you hang around, The Forum has gotten quiet of late.

On a side note. How's Biz up in Canada?

steve_biegler 02-26-2021 06:24 AM

Well guys.....Am I the last one left?

flstsphil 02-26-2021 09:35 AM

No. Just been responding through the Dealerlaw section.

srt 02-26-2021 05:08 PM

No you are not.

57years 03-02-2021 10:00 AM

No, but so involved with non car business and my farm, i can hardly find the time to sit at a computer screen for leisure. Always good to read the comments here.

steve_biegler 04-02-2021 09:15 AM

Just a bump

57years 04-20-2021 05:16 AM

Hi Steve. Hope you and all the old forum buddies are well. Since the flu has been around, I have traveled to 20 states and had a ball. Trying to remain optimistic about our homeland, hard to do with such a drumbeat of evil being broadcast daily. I pray daily (and resultingly find prayers unanswered) for some positive news, yet it seems the only great things left are the lick of my dog and the giggle of a child. God, or Nature’s god, bless us all and give us the grace to always do the “right” thing. Mask on or mask off, we should smile! Bud

steve_biegler 04-20-2021 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 57years (Post 39163)
Hi Steve. Hope you and all the old forum buddies are well. Since the flu has been around, I have traveled to 20 states and had a ball. Trying to remain optimistic about our homeland, hard to do with such a drumbeat of evil being broadcast daily. I pray daily (and resultingly find prayers unanswered) for some positive news, yet it seems the only great things left are the lick of my dog and the giggle of a child. God, or Nature’s god, bless us all and give us the grace to always do the “right” thing. Mask on or mask off, we should smile! Bud

Hi Bud! I am well. Sounds like you have had quite an adventure in the last year. Good for you! I continue to pray as well, with the same outcome as you've seen. Let's continue to hope and pray. 2 shop cats here and they are sometimes the nicest people I see all day! Animals are great stress relievers. I agree...The RIGHT thing is always the right thing to do. I sure do miss all the "Forum Friends". Some of us are hanging in there, but not many.

Keep Smiling!!

Steve.

possum 05-05-2021 05:50 AM

Still here, still check in from time to time.


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