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Old 09-15-2011, 07:12 AM   #1
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Default ram brand to get a fiat ram van...

They told us we were getting a ram van and it was the fiat van... kinda like that little dinky ford deliver van... showed us a pic in yesterdays go to market meeting, and it was uglier than a mans ass....

when ask if everybody got it or it was business link dealers only nobody could answer the question
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:54 AM   #2
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Ha...uglier than a man's ass. That might be the best automobile style reference I've heard.
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Old 09-15-2011, 10:54 AM   #3
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Ha...uglier than a man's ass. That might be the best automobile style reference I've heard.
I think the description really captures the vehicle's appearance:




In fairness that was the worst picture of the Fiat Doblo that I could find. Hopefully the vehicle will receive some styling improvements before they add the Ram logo to the hood.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:21 AM   #4
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Dear god...it looks like they picked the stable of the Tata Motors design crew.

I do like the sliding door in the back. Perfect for picking up the ladies on a Saturday night. Terrible...
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:24 PM   #5
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... kinda like that little dinky ford deliver van...
The irony is the Ford Transit Van and the Fiat Doblo are both built in Turkey and will be imported to the U.S.

When I first heard about the Ford Transit van I liked it but I don't get the impression it's been a big seller for Ford - I still don't see too many on the streets.

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... when ask if everybody got it or it was business link dealers only nobody could answer the question
That's a good question. Is Chrysler still pushing Business Link and are there many dealers who are doing well with it?

To the extent that Ram finally has some heavy duty trucks it would be great to hear some dealer success stories with Business Link but I get the impression that the commercial market is soft since so many of those trucks were used for construction and housing and those markets are still mired in the recession.

On a side note, the Ram brand will also be getting a larger size commercial van, something more on the scale of the old Sprinters, based on a Fiat design that will be built in Mexico.
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:40 PM   #6
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If only this was area 51.....
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Old 09-15-2011, 02:47 PM   #7
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If only this was area 51.....
Would a thread in AREA 51 allow you to comment on the styling of the Fiat Doblo or the success of Chrysler's Business Link program?
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Old 09-15-2011, 04:24 PM   #8
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Geo Tracker on steroids.
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Old 09-16-2011, 07:53 AM   #9
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it sounded to me like they were pushing commercial sales and business link, and I think this is from Bigland's influence...
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Old 09-16-2011, 08:54 AM   #10
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BL...big BL training session in Vegas next week....will start post after
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:10 AM   #11
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it sounded to me like they were pushing commercial sales and business link, and I think this is from Bigland's influence...
That would make sense given Bigland's experience on the Freightliner side of the house. He clearly understands the commercial business and I'm sure Marchionne wants to find a way to sell more of their commercial vehicles in the U.S.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:14 AM   #12
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BL...big BL training session in Vegas next week....will start post after
Thanks for the information - I hope you have a great time in Las Vegas.

I'd love to hear your thoughts about the Business Link meeting - maybe in an AREA 51 thread. To me Business Link always seemed to have a lot of potential but I can only think of a handful of dealers who were actually able to make it work.

In fairness, maybe the program is more successful today now that Dodge has a better lineup of heavy duty trucks with frames that can accommodate up-fitting.
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Old 09-16-2011, 03:31 PM   #13
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Great, now everyone's going to think you said something positive about Chrysler's Business Link program and I censored it.

For the record, I didn't censor Carguy's post.....
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Old 09-18-2011, 04:05 PM   #15
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I couldn't find the zipper mouth emoticon......just meant I will reserve my comments until after training
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