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View Poll Results: What's your prediction for November's Sales Results? | |||
Sales will be strong and evenly spread between all OEMs | 0 | 0% | |
Sales will be strong overall but some OEMs will continue to struggle | 0 | 0% | |
Sales will be marginal overall - the pattern of winners and losers will continue | 14 | 70.00% | |
Sales will be weak and evenly spread between all OEMs | 6 | 30.00% | |
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12-01-2009, 09:32 AM | #16 | |
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I heard from another dealer in the Denver BC that sales had slowed down quite a bit in the last month or two. I guess it only takes about 60 or 70 units to be the top selling Chrysler dealer in the Business Center. |
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12-01-2009, 09:35 AM | #17 | |
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I can see why you were pushing to move CJ out and go with a single point KIA store. |
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12-01-2009, 10:36 AM | #18 |
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Chrysler down 25% from last year
It looks like the analysts were right with their predictions concerning Chrysler - sales were off 25% compared to last November.
Here's a link to Chrysler's Press Release - click here On a positive note, it appears that sales of the Sebring, Caravan and Journey were strong. While I'm assuming that the Sebring's performance is reflective of fleet sales, I'm hoping the Caravan and Journey reflect retail demand. It's also worth noting that Caliber sales were almost non-existent due to inventory issues. |
12-01-2009, 11:32 AM | #19 |
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Ram Truck down 37% --- I'd say the new ads are not working.
It is amazing the spin these guys can put on the reports. Lipstick on a pig. |
12-01-2009, 11:41 AM | #20 |
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Hyundai/KIA up 34% - is it Fleet Business?
Automotive News is reporting that Hyundai/KIA are up 34% but there are some comments suggesting that most of the gain is from the rental fleets.
Does Hyundai/KIA breakout their retail and fleet sales? As a small piece of anecdotal evidence, my father rented a car for the first week he was in Sun City West and it was a Hyundai, so maybe there's some truth to the comments? |
12-01-2009, 11:52 AM | #21 | |
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Concerning the "lipstick on a pig" comment - I agree. On a final note, at what point is the Dakota officially dead? Less than 700 units and outsold by the Sprinter. |
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12-01-2009, 02:36 PM | #22 | |
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The good news is Nov 09 US sales are flat w/ Nov 08, the bad news is Nov 08 sucked. OEMs up from Nov 08 may see a little light but nobody is out of the woods yet. The 25% drop for CJD w/ over 50% in fleet is beyond bad news. I hope they get it together soon. |
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12-02-2009, 03:09 AM | #23 | |
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GM seems to be moving at a different speed than Chrysler these days. 2 more years of the same products...ummm.... |
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12-02-2009, 07:05 AM | #24 | |
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While I knew the Sebring volume had to be fleet, I was hoping that Journey and Minivan figures reflected retail demand. And what's the story with the Caliber? I know that there's a new interior for 2010 but I thought Chrysler had a solution that would allow them to build units in the mean time. |
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12-02-2009, 07:14 AM | #25 | |
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The Dodge Avenger is a great example. I saw one the other day with aftermarket tires and wheels and it looked 100 times better than the stock units. Granted, the Avenger's not a great car but if it looks good and it's cheap enough it will sell. |
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12-02-2009, 07:21 AM | #26 | |
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Seems odd that they'd provide that level of detail and not breakout fleet and retail sales? Maybe it's there and I missed it? |
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12-02-2009, 08:40 AM | #27 |
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How can Suzuki and Mitsubishi survive at these volumes?
I was reviewing the sales recap in Automotive News and noticed that Suzuki and Mitsubishi were both down by 40 to 50% for November. Mitsubishi was down to less than 3,000 units and Suzuki was barely selling half of that.
How long can these brands survive in the U.S.? I also read that the Smart Car was down 66% from last year. I wonder how far sales have to drop before Daimler and Penske pull the plug? |
12-02-2009, 10:25 AM | #28 |
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I used to think Chrysler/Fiat was in a different league than Suzuki and Mitsubishi...but I'm reforming my opinion. Hehehe... :-)
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12-02-2009, 10:42 AM | #29 |
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You better change it. Suzuki, and Mitubishi will end up as bigger players.
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