Nada membership

[79LilRedExpress]

Has NADA's conduct during this whole Project Genicide affected anyone else's position on membership ?

I have elected not to re-new our membership this year, and I will not attend their Convention.

I also have not filled out any J.D. Powers' surveys since they denounced the dealership franchise system...
And boy, does that piss-off the factory guys!

[XDCX]

I remember starting a thread earlier this year concerning the NADA based on a story that was in Automotive News. The message was the NADA is shrinking - there are fewer dealers in business and the ones who remain are less likely to be members of the NADA. Said another way, the pie is shrinking and the NADA's getting a smaller slice.

Perhaps a bigger concern to the NADA is two of their "cash cows" are losing ground - the NADA Used Car Valuation Guide and the Annual Convention.

[Txflyer]

Never been to a convention, and I can book cars out just as easily on Route 1. Really don't see any need for the NADA in my store at this point. We've always gotten more benefit from the TADA (State Association) in the past.

[ohiobuckeyes]

Originally Posted by XDCX

Perhaps a bigger concern to the NADA is two of their "cash cows" are losing ground - the NADA Used Car Valuation Guide and the Annual Convention.

Right about that...Most dealerships today are switching to BlackBook. GMAC forces dealerships to use it for Floorplaning and Book Value, along with Chase Auto Finance for book value. Only Huntington National and a local bank really need an NADA and the website is still free to get a book value on so that is how I get it for them.

Also think that since the late 90's early 00's (very wierd to type that) many dealership have been tighting up the pocketbooks and cutting expenses the only Dealer Group we are a member of is the State Assocation. And my state assocation give us dealers more help then anyone. Free Monthly meetings, Discounts on supplies, works comp. etc.

What does NADA really get you?

[The StraightShooter]

Gave DEAC a small fortune over the years and when it got down to brass tacks I was left to twist in the wind.

[XDCX]

Originally Posted by Txflyer

We've always gotten more benefit from the TADA (State Association) in the past.

Originally Posted by ohiobuckeyes

Also think that since the late 90's early 00's (very wierd to type that) many dealership have been tighting up the pocketbooks and cutting expenses the only Dealer Group we are a member of is the State Assocation. And my state assocation give us dealers more help then anyone. Free Monthly meetings, Discounts on supplies, works comp. etc.

I agree with both comments 100%.

While I know some State Dealer Associations are better than others, it seems clear they do a much better job of actually representing individual dealers than the NADA does.

Part of my vision is to get to the point where the forum can offer each State Dealer Association their own section. It would be like AREA 51 - you would only be able to see it if you were a member.

[jayhawk]

both nada and all state associations need to become militant defenders of their dealers franchise rights or they wont have anyone left to pay dues. they cant be everyones friend. its past time to unequivocably take the side of their dealer members. they are, after all, DEALER associations.

[lsx only]

we use black book all the time

[XDCX]

Originally Posted by The StraightShooter

Gave DEAC a small fortune over the years and when it got down to brass tacks I was left to twist in the wind.

I was reading some of the comments on Automotive News today and thought it was interesting that the NADA doesn't have the resources to support dealers in arbitration with witnesses but the CRDR does.

The NADA has collected millions over the years but comes across as being a mostly symbolic organization. The CRDR isn't even a year old and runs on a shoestring budget and gets significantly more accomplished for their members.

Based on what I see, if the NADA was a stock, I'd short it....

[dodgequality]

Dealership Forum has no budget, other than Scott Hogle's benevolence, and we get more information here than anywhere.

[XDCX]

Originally Posted by dodgequality

Dealership Forum has no budget, other than Scott Hogle's benevolence, and we get more information here than anywhere.

Hey, thanks for the kind words. You always know what to say to make me smile and lift my spirits. Good Karma for you.....